The Colorado Independent - Latest Comments in Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Dr. X — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:50:37 -0000

His Saintly Wife? She's a saint because she sticks with him?

Nope, I see two thick-skinned leeches who perversely revel in the public humiliation and debasement as long as other religious suckers will pay their way, support their lifestyle and eventually put them back in the pulpit or power.

These con artists and hustlers are no different from Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, Jimmy Bakker and countless other lesser-known Bible-thumping fire and brimstone preachers.

It also brings to mind the hilarious and heartwarming saga of Florida Republican State Representative Bob Allen who gave $20 to an undercover cop in a public restroom and offered to give him a blow job because, as he explained later when arrested, he was afraid he was going to be mugged by the scary black man.

Oh, and that postscript! 'Our handicapped son' appears so vile, manipulative and self-serving! The language of the letter is despicable, as the appropriate form would be 'Our son, who is handicapped'.

I've met two-dollar crack whores with more class, dignity and self-respect!

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

heretical_eggs — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:38:08 -0000

Ridiculous This closet-case drug addict continues to disgust me. His latest scheme is utterly ridiculous, but it is disturbing because it will probably gain him some income.

I really feel sorry for his children who don't have any choice in the matter. I hate having bureaucracy interfere in people's lives, but in this case a visit from child services might be warranted.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

nopayforservicesrendered — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:29:26 -0000

people like Ted deserved to get STONED look...the basic problem here is that we have all been duped (well 90% of us) into paying these low level scumbags (pastors, preachers, politicians). we pay them for what? for bigoted ideas and sermons, for war and double speak. Ted is just a manifestation of our own stupidity. as long as we (Americans) continue to "support" these leeches, we will continue to live in the hell created by them. Ted should be stoned...but only in the terms of the biblical version.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

na — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:27:45 -0000

Ted Haggard You posted his address. You had no call to do that even to Haggard let alone his family. YOU ARE WRONG!

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Steamboater — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:13:00 -0000

Ted and His Wife Are Both Crooks It's not just Ted. His wife is just as responsible for this scam as he is. Both are adults. They know what they're doing and to top it off, to use their kids as pawns so as to rip off the gullible and the public in general is disgusting.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

barbz — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:49:54 -0000

Liar, Slacker, Hypocrite Wow...

Serious deja vu here, a "religious" leader who doesn't want to work for his money, lies about drugs, whines for people to give him an income...

Ted ought to change his name to L. Ron Haggard. There's very little difference between him and the founder of Scientology.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

gregu — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 12:03:54 -0000

the address is a mail drop, like Mr Mailbox No doubt a visit to the place would show a small store with a copier and 100 mailboxes to rent monthly.

Mail Drop Search Results

1 maildrop was found:

MAIL & MORE

9699 N HAYDEN RD

SCOTTSDALE, AZ 85258-5826

602-483-6188

http://www.blackbook... is a good site for figuring out real versus fake addresses.

Greg in DC

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

DetroitMark — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:48:52 -0000

Unenlightened Sorry, Bob. But that's some of the most unenlightened hogwash I've read today.

Being treated like a rock star doesn't make you a homosexual. And that's what Ted is, plain and simple. The difference between a homosexual, and one who doesn't admit it until they've lied to 25 million people about it?

Most follks just go BE homosexuals and live their lives in peace.

Religious nutcases like Haggard have to be a homosexual, AND keep up the nonsense facade of christianity.

Of course he's going to fall flat on his ass in front of everyone. They all will eventually if they live long enough.

He's not evil because he's gay. He's evil because he's a liar who proves once again that christianity is one of the most evil things ever to happen to the people on this planet.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Bob — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 11:22:55 -0000

Repression and Perversion It has been known for a very long time the connection between repression and perversion.

These evangelical ministers who claim a special relationship to God are the most repressed individuals in society. Their followers treat them like rock stars, they are paid like rock stars,they want to believe they are rock stars, but yet have to act like puritans. Eventually their perversion surfaces and is obvious for all to see. The result: many are shocked, but why?

Understand that these guys are hanging by a thread. How long will it be before his perversion surfaces and what will it be?

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Discernment — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:57:27 -0000

WHY DOES THE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY PROTECT THEM? Where is the Sprit Filled Christians & why are they not exposing these people that lie, cheat, steal anything in the name of "Christianity" - they are not true Christians and are not spirit filled. Ted - read your scripture and take it into your heart - if you do not WORK you do not EAT - simple as that. I would hope that the Holy Spirit guides people to expose this false teacher.

ALL churches should not be tax exempt - it is time for them to start paying their share - they do use government services and should no longer be exempt.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

starman — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 10:42:53 -0000

Stupid Religious Morons The thing I find most incredulous about this whole thing is that people still believe all the religious bullshit being force-fed to them by religious leaders. I guess when you're that brainwashed, you can no longer think for yourself!

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

cmdm — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:57:16 -0000

how private mail box businesses are run... i deal with a private mail boxes all the time...

the address is

9699 N. Hayden Road #108 (this next number is the post office box within that address)

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

When one gets an address at a private mail box, they first use their name or the name of their business, then EVERYONE uses the street address plus the suite number (in this case #108) then they add another number...that is their individual box number...

There could be hundreds (depending on the size of the business) that uses that same street address and suite number...

Having said all that, Ted is a fraud and a very sick and greedy person.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

anney — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:52:39 -0000

Cash for Heaven? What a farce. Haggard really means "Cash for my pocket!"

He ought to go dig ditches and earn his money instead of begging suckers for it.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

TonyT — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:41:11 -0000

Postal Drop Mail & More

9699 N Hayden Rd # 108

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Could Teddy's friend be running aa scam?

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Sarah — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:36:17 -0000

Miss Sarah To John I say you have it just right, brother.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Mike Mid City. — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:32:15 -0000

Shamless small c christian Slut. Jesus didn't die on the cross so this anti-christ pig could fleece the people who are seeking God.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

teacherdad@etched4446@myp — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 09:01:41 -0000

Options Sell the house!

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

freedamerica — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:43:40 -0000

Haggard is Typical Consider this:

Haggard follows a pattern set by the evangelical freaks in this country: While in power, they rant and rave against anti-Bush Americans, calling them anti-family, unpatriotic and whatever other label they can come up with.

Then comes the fall: they're found with a prostitue, or rape young boys, or bilk followers out of millions. Suddenly they're humble, crying on TV, seeking forgiveness and understanding.

It's too late by this time to limit their damage. They've spent years collecting money from their flocks to send to the Republicans for election campaigns. They've damaged the lives of free Americans and ruined the careers of liberals in their hometowns. And all along they preach their love of God and Christ and ...

Please understand ... the mega churches are businesses, that's all! The money has fueled the stripping of civil liberties, the takeover of the military by evangelicals, movies, CDs, DVDs, and books calling on America to start Armagedden.

I am ashamed of all Americans who attend any mega church or trust Haggard or the hundreds of other religious freaks in the Republican Party

It's all tied together: homosexual rape of young boys, Christianity, meth, and Republican push for total war.

Let's make all churches pay taxes, end of story and ban political contributions from so-called relgious and family groups for all time.

Let's end the theocracy created by lying "Christians" and the insanely stupid George Bush.

Let's take back America from the freaks of nature in America's mega churches.

John

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Beth — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:38:37 -0000

Call them Monday morning and ask why they're behind this Strategic Wealth Advisors

9699 North Hayden Road #108-214

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Tel: 480 998 1798 Fax: 623 321 7840

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Beth — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:36:08 -0000

Looks like Ted has hired a fundraising comapany http://www.xpertadvi...

matches same address oahukraig added above. Scumbag Ted!

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

meowomon — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:51 -0000

Get a Job Ted I worked three jobs to get my BS from FSU. I suggest you get off your lazy butt and work like the rest of us.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

oahukraig — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:33:10 -0000

Looks like another fraud The adress listed in the email comes up in a google search as:

Strategic Wealth Advisors LLC 9699 N Hayden Rd Ste 108-214

Scottsdale, AZ 85258

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

Mojo — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:27:04 -0000

Front page of the Huffington Post http://www.huffingto...

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

MsKitty — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 07:24:55 -0000

Where were the watchmen? The devil moves in so many ways, through anyone willing to be a vessel. Why did his congregation, his watchmen, not see him slipping into his fall? Was there no discerner of spirits in his whole congregation that saw the evil around him?

I say he still has a spirit of greed all over him. Devil's trick? I'd say. Sure isn't a cause I find worthy as a faithful steward.

Re: Ted Haggard’s Cash-For-Heaven Offer

KIp — Sun, 26 Aug 2007 06:36:56 -0000

Rev. It is Satan that loves money not God, as money is only used in hell and wealthy people in heaven are more rare than hens teeth.