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jiangyan xu — Tue, 19 Jul 2011 04:52:06 -0000

Little drops of water, little grains of sand, make the mighty ocean and the pleasant land. Coach Outlet

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Joy-filled man — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 16:03:32 -0000

The good news of God's acceptance True Christianity is not about keeping some rules; it's not about "do this" or "don't do that;" it's not about not screwing up, etiher. Christianity isn't even about living a good life; we can't do that in our own power. It's not about what we do, it's about what God did, and what God does! True Christianity is about being in a living relationship with the living God who loved the world so much that he took the punishment for all of its screwups on himself, so that those who would trust in him are forgviven for absolutely all their screwups, and live in the joy and peace of God's full acceptance, no matter how short they fall of what they should be. We could never make up for our sin, or our rebellion against our creator; we can never be good enough. Knowing that, and because God loves us so much, he took care of it. On the cross, all the sin of those who would trust Jesus was attributed to him (it's all taken care of), and his perfect life is attributed to them, so that now, when God looks to those who love him, he sees Jesus' perfect life! So we don't have to perform for God to love us, he's loved us already despite how screwed up we are! Not only that, but he starts to change those who trust him so that they would actually look more and more like Jesus in how they live; he empowers them to live in love and joy and goodness, and he satisfies them with his love and goodness. That is the good news; that is true Christianity.

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joeshmoe — Fri, 10 Nov 2006 04:27:02 -0000

So, would it be different if he didn't admit and repent? Unfortunately, this type of thing is happening a lot in the church today. I am actually on staff of a church where a minister was found in immoral activity with 100% proof. This happened at least 6 months ago. He at first, slightly admitted, but claimed, "i have told you i was a sinner". He used this as a scapegoat. Leaders in the church are held to a higher standard by the Bible. That doesn't mean they are perfect, and immune, not in the least. What it does mean is that when this sort of thing happens, you are more than likely done in ministry.

In our case, the minister has now been to counseling and claims he didn't have a problem. He also has backtracked and almost totally denied most of the hard facts.

Even though Haggard sinned greatly and is a hypocrite, by his letter he is repentant. That is the important key. God promises to forvgive when we seek his forgiveness truly and repent. We must admit our wrong.

In his letter of resignation, he shows, by his words, that he is truly sorry. Time will tell if that is really true.

Like others have said, I am sick of people judging Christianity by those who are huge hypocrites. The reality is that all Christians have times of hypocricy. No one is perfect. But...that is not a license for hypocricy. It is obvious by this situation how the sin of one man can literally impact thousands of people.

Please don't judge Christ by his followers. Look to Him and you will see what it's all about. And to those who are followers of Christ, don't forget, you are setting an example whether you like it or not. No room for Charles Barkley's.

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BRitz — Wed, 08 Nov 2006 10:29:26 -0000

I'm a hypocrite like you. Relax guys. Ted was living in hypocrisy but aren't we all in some way? Those who condemn him for believing "that shit" while simultaneously condemning him for living like they do are just as hypocritical - are they not? Face it - we all are hypocrites; those of us who condemn sin and those of us who condemn those who condemn sin. I hope (and from what I've read it seems to be the case) that this falling out will ultimately be a testimony to the grace of God available in Jesus Christ. This guy can show humility and grace to the world by openly confessing his sin and submissively responding to whatever correction his church organization would impose on him to bring healing and restoration. Whether or not he ends up pastoring again he can still live the rest of his life as a testimony to Christ's forgiveness and God's ability to restore sinful lives through the power of the Holy Spirit that works in those who believe.

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Seeing clearly — Tue, 07 Nov 2006 01:27:22 -0000

Black folks are fine with it. Great church and great to all the people who attend it. They even have black elders and overseers.

Definitely prayerful of a man who has fought these demons and lost. Now that this has been bought to light, Satan no longer has power and Ted will now be able to stop defiling himself and lying to his family. Things brought into the light causes Satan to lose power over us. It is so healing.

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Sayitasitis — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:22:12 -0000

Hear, hear!!! Hate it when people judge Jesus by the hypocrisy of Christian Religion. Jesus was also angry at the hypocrisy of religion. Be angry at religion but don't harden your heart to the Good News that Jesus brought. Good news for Haggard, if he turns from his horrid hypocrisy. Good news for you all if you turn from yours. Why don't you really check out what he saud rahter than what the religious say.

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Sayitasitis — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:22:03 -0000

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Sayitasitis — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 22:21:05 -0000

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filthy, vile, helpless — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 19:30:11 -0000

repent It is settled. Haggard is a wicked hypocrite. I agree with your anger. And I share disappointment with many.

But a question. Does that prove Jesus wrong? You are foolish to think so. As has been true countless times, those who say they follow Him prove themselves unlike Him. This is not the first time. It won't be the last.

But do you think that because Haggard is being punished that you will escape the justice of God? You speak of God as though He is a "skull-fucking" being. Every word we speak we will be held to against an inpenetrable standard. God will not forget what you say or write. Nor will He forget what I say and do, or what Ted Haggard has done.

And we should all be damned. I know I deserve it. If you don't see why you do, you need to open your eyes.

There is hope if you need it. Even Ted Haggard can have it. God will judge all men after we die. Will you be saved from the punishment of an unbending God?

There is only one Way. Read the Bible and find out what Christianity really is. We follow the one and only Jesus. He is incomparable. And He doesn't look like a religionist.

Just because Ted Haggard's life appears to be on sinking sand, doesn't mean yours is not. Repent. Now. While there is time, do not make your heart any harder than it is.

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The Skull Fucker! — Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:36:48 -0000

SKULL FUCKING! Skull Fuck Ted!

Skull Fuck Ted!

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Ned — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 09:30:31 -0000

God Wants to Rip Out Ted's Eyes and Skull Fuck Him ?

Wow, that's my kind of god!

I love the god stuff. You can just make up any shit you want and someone will hand you a buck.

The church of skullfucking god. Yeah, sure.

Let's write the bible for it.

In the beginning there was god and he was freakin' twisted.

Didn't know where to put his tool, so he invented man. . .

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Antonio — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 08:29:49 -0000

It's Time Pastor Ted - Don't Fear the Reaper! Your family is doomed to a lifetime of being associated with a drug freak, self-hating sodomite and hypocrite!

You are doomed to living with them, watching them go through their destroyed twisted lives being tormented around the clock by hateful people because of you, all the while learning to hate you more every day!

You are doomed to being righteously spat upon by everyone everywhere for the rest of your natural life!

Relieve you innocent family of this endless nightmare!

Don't fear the reaper!

Squeeze the trigger slowly and you'll never know when it will fire!

God is waiting for you, Pastor Ted!

He wants to rip your eyes out and skull fuck you before he sends you to hell.

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El Cid — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:21:37 -0000

Hypocracy In the bible women are abused, sold into slavery, beaten, and oppressed. god is vindictive, synical, racist, angry, and false. he permits adultery (salomon and his harem), is responsible for genocides (the word is smite, not kill or murder), kills innocents (the first born children of the egyptians, as if this children did not have right to life!)

what an omnipotent being! shows all the worst qualities of an uncivil, and uncivilized man.

In view of this fiction, all those who "believe" are unable to see reality. They are not homosapiens, they homocredulus.

Think!, don't just blindly believe you fools.

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Kazu — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:10:35 -0000

Sepuku All you can do is commit sepuku!

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jjrx8 — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:05:09 -0000

Overseers Yes and bush thinks he is Landru

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jjrx8 — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 06:04:02 -0000

Well said Very well said! Hypocrasy is a the heart of all this so called pastors and their cattle, err flock. Mindless bastards that cannot think for themselves. What good is a brain when they leave in the trunk of their cars when they go to chuch?

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Vay Porlock — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 05:57:11 -0000

Fighting His Demons... It's called fighting "your" demons in others. The thing you fear the most is usually inside yourself. The US, for example, is living in a fantasy fighting the terrorist that it is. The more it fights the more it becomes what is fighting. God help us all if we don't start waking up soon.

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wwwsmitty2004 — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:51:25 -0000

Overseers? What is this, Star Trek?

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curious — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:50:34 -0000

speed ram I wonder if the pastor used the meth so he could speed ram his hooker's rectum. I wonder if he spoke in tongues while he was tongueing Johnny Hole's balls and taint.

these are questions the media needs to ask.

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DaXue — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:13:42 -0000

re: Marilyn Musgrave You have to know that name before going further ... which won't take a lot of effort. Musgrave is the leader of the North Dakota "Jesus Camp", which IMO amounts to the Christian equivalent of a 'terrorist' training camp. She takes children as young as five years old !!! and convinces them that their lives are down the sh*t hole and that Jesus will save them from their direction-less lives.

http://www.jesuscampthemovie.com/

She's another item on my list of hundreds of reasons to never indoctrinate what children I may have into any religion.

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Chuck — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 04:04:52 -0000

We are the OVERSEERS! "Overseers". What a downright scary notion, right out of the middle ages and the crusaders. Nonsense that only religion can provide.

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Jeremiad — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:39:56 -0000

EXCUSE ME!!!! BUSH in Greely: ?Marilyn Musgrave understands the importance of defending traditional values,? Mr. Bush said. ?She has worked to prevent the institution of marriage from being redefined by activist judges. She understands your values.? NYTimes

EXCUSE ME!!!! Seems like Ted Haggard, and the evangelical/GOP cult of hypocrisy, not activist judges, are the ones redefining marriage!!!!!!!!!!!!

(Did the "meth" make it better, "PastorTed"?)

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maxhodges — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 02:10:04 -0000

> Lay off a little! > Lay off a little!

You gotta be kidding. Ted profits from speading a mindless form of spirtuality, encouraging obedience over critical thought, and for spreading worldviews that are unscientific and at times downright hateful. I hope he burns in hell.

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Jeremiad — Sun, 05 Nov 2006 01:35:40 -0000

Hypocrisy ad nauseum Haggard, Dobson, and the religious right wing zealots have made gay marriage a ballot issue in many states with the fear mongering that "gay marriage" threatens heterosexual marriages.

The fear they elicit is as false as the TSA CODE ORANGE warnings at the airport!!! Seems the only heterosexual marriage threatened is that of Mrs Haggard. This data point is a sad anomaly as is the hypocrisy of "Pastor Ted" and the entire religious right who love to cast stones.

Contrast the "understanding" reaction of these religious zealots towards the drug enhanced homosexual encounters of Pastor Ted with the "hellfire and brimstone" reaction to Clinton's dalliance. Hypocrisy is on every level of this story. Should one laugh, or cry?

Jeremiad

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Thebuz — Sat, 04 Nov 2006 21:50:50 -0000

Private Matter Folks, as the GOP reminds us, this is a PRIVATE matter. GOP drug/sex/pedo/adultery matters are private. Dem indiscretions are the only thing that should be reported publicly and prosecuted in front of the country.